I seemed to remember reading somewhere that the 22 kWh option is available only in Europe.Anyone know the AC Charger options for the RS? 9.6 kWh I'm aware of, but I've read that there's a a 22 kWh option? My dealer isn't familiar with this subject, so anyone who knows something, it would be greatly appreciated.
In the same boat. We have a 3-phase system and 22kw charging box ordered. But our dealer never mentioned this as an option.I have chased my dealer about this extensively
The 22kw onboard charger is available as an option on the Tayvcan and won't be offered on the UK build cars until early next year
The reality is 22kw charger is great for work, if you have sufficient 3 phase power it would be 32A 3 phase. However I have been looking at installing a 25kW DC charger at work, the only thing is the £9k cost of the unit but could charge two cars so guess I wait until someone else gets one at work
This should mean you can get reasonable charging speeds whilst at the office at cheaper than charging station rates, obviously, commercial electricity costs are different and it will not be off-peak
|KB4||On-board charger up to 22 kW (AC)||Increases max AC charging from 11kW to 22kW|
|NW2||e-tron charging system connect (up to 22 kW)||Premium charging system for use at home offers a number of smart charging functions such as integrated power metering, PIN protection and cost-optimised charging in combination with myAudi app and corresponding electricity rates. Software updates are possible via an internet connection. The e-tron charging system connect offers even more smart functions in conjunction with a compatible home energy management system. These include charging power adjustment with blackout protection and cost-optimised charging with dynamic consideration of flexible electricity prices. In addition, preference can be given to the use of electricity from an existing photovoltaic system.|
Hard to argue with the 'need' factor but then again need (or adequacy) is a fairly subjective area from folks buying a GT. I could get by with my daughters 95' diesel Peugeot but ..... Actually joking aside apparently that particular little car is insanely good in fact from a life cycle CO2 environmental analysis. 60 mpg, 230k miles and clean as you like emissions wise.Just to interject here, but the rate of charging at 11 kW for charging at home is perfectly adequate.
Frankly disgusted with Audi - before buying an etron S I told the sales person I wanted the 22kw option - he emphatically told me it was “marketing noise” and it wasn’t coming - then 2 months later it was available as an option ! Had he told me this I would have waited.Anyone know the AC Charger options for the RS? 9.6 kWh I'm aware of, but I've read that there's a a 22 kWh option? My dealer isn't familiar with this subject, so anyone who knows something, it would be greatly appreciated.
That's a grim picture.Frankly disgusted with Audi - before buying an etron S I told the sales person I wanted the 22kw option - he emphatically told me it was “marketing noise” and it wasn’t coming - then 2 months later it was available as an option ! Had he told me this I would have waited.
So to compound things the dc charger stopped working - apparently just needed a software update - until I discover tonight with 30 miles range left I discover it still doesn’t !
So here I am stuck at a 22kw ac charger charging at 10kw
My advice to anyone buying an etron is to get the 22 ac charger - at least if your dc charger proves to be as reliable as mine you won’t have to reach retirement sitting at an ac charger !
BTW when I left in the £90k etron S in to get the charger fixed (except of course they didn’t) the service guy said they couldnt supply a car for me but they would get me a taxi somewhere if I wanted !
I was considering changing my other car for a GT - wow that would have been a major mistake !
I disagree. My current Tesla was one of the last with the higher speed charging. Tesla stopped it because they claimed most didn’t order it.Just to interject here, but the rate of charging at 11 kW for charging at home is perfectly adequate.
Same there with the Audi dealers? It's a really poor do. I really do think they stopped selling cars and now just package finance deals.I disagree. My current Tesla was one of the last with the higher speed charging. Tesla stopped it because they claimed most didn’t order it.
I personally love it. Sure, if all you did was come home after work and put the car on a charger and wait overnight, that’s fine. However my commute is 70miles one way. Going to work, running errands, then coming home drops the battery pretty low. And if I need to quickly charge up for more errands (high school kids in sports for instance) than that extra speed make a world of difference.
What I sincerely hope is this is like what happened with the Taycan. The limitation wasn’t in the car, it was the actual charger you plugged into the wall! Turns out all Taycans will say they charge at the lower power because that is all the plug in charger can handle unless you are on three phase service. But if you plug the Taycan into a high powered wall chargers that is hard wired into your power on a 80amp or 100amp circuit it will happily charge at the higher/faster rate.
Again, sincerely hoping that is the case here. In any event, my local dealer has absolutely NO clue what I am talking about with the Audi. While I am excited about owning this car, it reminds me of where Tesla was ten years ago. The Audi dealers simply do not understand the car, nor can they talk about it intelligently. I will have to do most of the research and support myself and bring the solutions to them!
I'm no expert but I think that's a spot on assessment, personal situ's aside.Well, certainly, if your situation really calls for the faster rate, then go for it. My point is that for most people, the 11 kW is perfectly fine. Reading through this thread made me look a little deeper into this area.
Maybe some of the confusion here has to do with the EV Platforms? The GT RS and Taycan are both built on the "J1" high performance EV platform that Posche and Audi share. it is an 800V platform, as opposed to the 400V "MLB evo" platform on which the standard Quattro etron is built. It may very well be that both the Taycan and GT can handle much higher AC charging rates (it lets them charge at 350V DC, compared with 150V DC) if the circuit is available (in the US any device--a charger, for example--attached to a 50V or higher circuit must be hardwired).
The limitation on the 11kW vs 22kW, I think, has to do mainly with the upcoming 2022 standard Quattro etron. It is built on the 400V MLB evo platform. In this case the "three-phase" requirement may come into play.
Man you light years ahead of me .... mine end of April/early May!Yeah. Porsche really messed up all their literature on this. Their published handbook/manual AND their online announcement literature actually states you need to order some type of “upgrade” to get the faster charging. I only found out when I was looking into the TeslaTap Mini adaptor so I didn’t have to install new wall chargers. There is a great thread from Taycan owners that show the actual screens in their car when plugged into the high powered Tesla Wall Chargers and their cars are charging at the higher charge speed.
I also think Audi wrote most of their announcements around the European spec vehicles and the USA side just republished it.
Anyhow, I guess I will see in thirty days. My RS comes off the assembly line on Friday so it’s getting closer!
Well dang … please forgive my idiocy … I may have to go back and edit my previous posts.Man you light years ahead of me .... mine end of April/early May!
Would you have the link to that thread you mention above? Very interested in understanding more about that.
No worries, have to say it's far from easy ploughing a line through this new stuff. Least I've found it complex but at the same time very interesting. Thanks for advising.Well dang … please forgive my idiocy … I may have to go back and edit my previous posts.
The entire Taycan thread was about the difference between 9kWh and 11kWh.
I so terribly sorry about the confusion.