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Hi Everyone!

I picked up my E-Tron a couple of weeks ago:

55 Launch Edition in Manhattan Grey and black leather. Incredible car although I have one issue which is causing me a big issue which I've posted here.

On a positive note, I love the virtual mirrors. One aspect of them I hadn't appreciated prior to getting the car, was how amazing they are in the rain. With regular mirrors, when it's raining, you are looking through a wet rain covered window, onto a rainy mirror. The view is far from optimal. With the virtual mirrors you simply have the clean view from the camera onto the LED screen. It's really impressive.

Other aspects: Love the autonomous mode (Tour Pack) when cruising - I've had zero false errors from other vehicles, moving or stationary - super impressive as an effective overall system. LED panels and MMI the best I've experienced of any car. B&O sounds system very good indeed for an OEM product. Overall the E-Tron is just a really good car, (apart from the other issue I'm experiencing) - very comfortable, great primary and secondary ride, handles incredibly well, considering the weight, and is plenty quick enough for normal driving. There are a few areas of trim where they could improve, namely the lower regions of the centre console (improved if you spec the optional extended leather), door bin area and the rear of the centre console and air vents feel cheap. But overall very solid as you'd expect from Audi.

Here's hoping I can fix the one major niggle.

Nic99.

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Hi Nic99 - i have just ordered the 55 Vorspung and removed the virtual mirrors due to some really bad reviews. A couple of questions if I may:
1. Have you experienced water beading on top of the camera or does it never get stuck?
2. Have you had any experience with sun glare on the passenger display meaning you can't use it? (I've seen videos of this on the Launch Edition and it looks horrendous)
3. Is it something you've gotten used to in your 8 days, or is it still taking some time?

I'd love to have the virtual mirrors (given they are included in the price), but I do not want a safety concern when driving with a family. I'd like to know if you've any further thoughts.
 

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For me the VM add value. They are especially useful in bad weather and when it's raining. They are also able to pick up more detail at night time due to sensitivity. As an added bonus they also look great and are iconic.

To answer your questions:

1) I've never experienced any water beading issue and I've driven the car on all sorts of roads and in horrible wet weather on multiple occasions. The car had condensation on the VM the other day but after a minute or so it cleared once they'd warmed up. No difference to a regular mirror.

2) Ive' not experienced sun glare problems on either mirror. I've not actively looked to find the issue so that doesn't mean it does not exist, just that I've not experienced it. Is this something which happens when the sun is shining directly into the cameras? Happy to try to experiment today as the sun is actually out in the UK!

3) It took me a few hours during my first drive to get used to and acclimatise to the VM. Each time I use the car I am reminded how good they are. But they do behave differently to regular mirrors in that you cannot change your angle of view, obviously. At first they seem small in size when compared to regular mirrors, but that is pure perception. If you calculate the relative size, in terms of projection size and where they are in space, then in fact they are spot on. I found that my arm would get in the way, so no more cruising with my arm on the window sill!

The one down side I've experienced is when reverse parking. I like to use mirrors to view where the wheel is in relation to the kerb. However, with the VM you can't do this. Having said that, I had a loan e-tron the other day which had regular mirrors and noticed that once I'd tilted the mirror down I couldn't see the rear wheels which is I found odd, so not sure if that's down to the body shape? But that's the one thing I miss. Other than that, only positives from my perspective.

A good friend of mine also has VM and he's owned his car for 8 months or so. He also agrees they are a plus, as opposed to a negative. That helped with my decision to go with VM as I'd read various negative reviews. After collecting the car, I hit some horrendous weather where the rain and spray was as bad as it gets on a motorway, but looking at the VM the display was crystal clear. It dawned on me that normally I would be looking through a rain smeared window onto rainy mirrors whereas with VM you simply get a very clear view. I'd argue they are far safer in bad weather and the darker hours compared with regular mirrors. I've read this elsewhere since taking ownership but hadn't read it before.

Hope that helps.
 

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Thanks for your review & comments. I concur with the VM points you make about dark and rain. I have the Kerb issue as well, but the manual says that the VM should have "Kerb View" and there is a setting in the MMI to do this. Yet, every time I still have to manually drag the mirrors down - setting seems to be a placebo! :(
 

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These responses do help, thank you. I have requested a demo of a car with the virtual mirrors in the hope that if I like them, I can change my order.
 

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I have the Kerb issue as well, but the manual says that the VM should have "Kerb View" and there is a setting in the MMI to do this. Yet, every time I still have to manually drag the mirrors down - setting seems to be a placebo! :(
Kerb view needs to be selected under the VM under Display & brightness.

Please see my post about my new findings on kerb view - it actually works very well.
 

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@uhhu_ I had a VM model etron as a courtesy car for 2 days recently. I wasn't annoyed by them, nor did I find them to be bad or detracting from safety or enjoyment of the car.

But. I wasn't blown away either.

I did enjoy just simply glancing to the right to check the driver side mirror (UK model) rather than moving your whole head. With more time maybe I'd have learned to like them more. I did think the screens could be bigger.

They look great though.

On balance. They're not worse than standard mirrors. I'd comfortably live with them and if money were no object, I'd spec them on my next etron. Some reviews are a little sensationalist in my opinion, quick to shout down innovation. Having seen such reviews I was suprised how much of a non issue they are
 

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I managed to get a test drive (for 7 days) of an e-Tron 55 S-Line with the VM door mirrors. I received the car on Friday and have driven around 75 miles so far - I really like the mirrors and will definitely spec them on my new car. I find the display to be very clear and it has taken little time to get used to.

I have noticed in the rain, that there can be a halo effect round drivers headlights in the display, but this wouldn't detract me from getting the VM mirrors. I would also concur with comments regarding the display being better than looking through a rain soaked window on to a rain soaked mirror.
I haven't managed to be the kerb view working, so I will have a look through the MMI this week. That being said, I find it so much easier to change the view of the display than changing my mirror view on my existing car. To drag a finger across the display is quicker and more precise than using a switch.

Quick unrelated question: is it possible to close the boot from inside the car or with the key fob?
 

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Nope. I wish there was, and it seems like it would've been a very simple add.
When I eventually get my e tron I will check for definite, however I enabled both on my A6 through either VCDS or VAGCOM.
 

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Nope. I wish there was, and it seems like it would've been a very simple add.
I found this: Closing the rear luggage lid (hatch) with remote? - AudiWorld Forums, and then tried the examples:
1. Kick foot underneath the rear of the car at the back: a swift kick to the underside of the car will open the boot and close it
2. Using the fob: 2 presses on the middle button on the key fob will open the boot, press and hold the middle button on the fob, and the boot will close
3. Using the control on the inside: pull the button within the door for the boot and it will open. Pull and hold the button and the boot will start to close. Button needs be held until boot is completely closed (it's not automatic).

I'm in the UK. Not sure if it will be the same elsewhere.
 

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Thank you @uhhu_ I'm sure I will be using method 3 this winter!
If someone has their e iron and VCDS or VCP then the following (change the module depending on Trunk module) may allow you to allow closing of the boot/trunk form a single activation of the button inside. It may emit a warning beep like reversing :)
[XX - Trunk Elec]

[Adaption - 10]
There are 8 options for "Activation using rear lid. . .". Change the two "number 4" settings to active.
Original Coding:
(1)-Activation using rear lid opening button in remote key - Touch function for opening: not active
(2)-Activation using rear lid opening button in remote key - Tap function for opening: active
(3)-Activation using rear lid opening button in remote key - Touch function for closing: active
(4)-Activation using rear lid opening button in remote key - Tap function for closing: not active
(1)-Activation using rear lid remote unlocking switch - Touch function for opening: not active
(2)-Activation using rear lid remote unlocking switch - Tap function for opening: active
(3)-Activation using rear lid remote unlocking switch - Touch function for closing: active
(4)-Activation using rear lid remote unlocking switch - Tap function for closing: not active
New Coding:
(1)-Activation using rear lid opening button in remote key - Touch function for opening: not active
(2)-Activation using rear lid opening button in remote key - Tap function for opening: active
(3)-Activation using rear lid opening button in remote key - Touch function for closing: active
(4)-Activation using rear lid opening button in remote key - Tap function for closing: active
(1)-Activation using rear lid remote unlocking switch - Touch function for opening: not active
(2)-Activation using rear lid remote unlocking switch - Tap function for opening: active
(3)-Activation using rear lid remote unlocking switch - Touch function for closing: active
(4)-Activation using rear lid remote unlocking switch - Tap function for closing: active
Changing the first "number 4" allows closing of the trunk lid with a quick press of the trunk button on the remote control.
Changing the second "number 4" allows closing of the truck lid with a quick pull of the trunk switch (in the driver's side door)
The trunk is still opened as before. It will beep when remote closing.
 

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They are two systems from programming the Audi or VW group and can also find faults and clear them.
 
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They are two systems from programming the Audi or VW group and can also find faults and clear them.
If you need or fancy using them, there should be enough people on these forums that might be near you. They cost a few hundred so are not really needed for most people.
 

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If someone has their e iron and VCDS or VCP then the following (change the module depending on Trunk module) may allow you to allow closing of the boot/trunk form a single activation of the button inside. It may emit a warning beep like reversing :)
[XX - Trunk Elec]
Is this confirmed to be working in VCDS? I am considering adding VINs on my VCDS to get my etron scanned and looking for a way to disable the kick to open back hatch via VCDS. Is the whole

[Adaption - 10]
There are 8 options for "Activation using rear lid. . .". Change the two "number 4" settings to active.
Original Coding:

Something that already exists in VCDS?
 
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