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Just to let anyone looking for cheaper home charging, Octopus energy have extended their Intelligent tariff to include Audi electric cars.

While the daytime rate and standing charge is the same, the off peak rate covers 6 hours and is currently 10p per Kwh

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I’ve been on it about a week now and it’s great how it plans a timer schedule through the night directly with my Q4.

FYI my home charger is the Pod-point installed under the Audi UK offer.

Hope this helps a few save some £’s over the winter months as our range gets hit by the cold!
 

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I'm also still with Octopus Go at 5p which will end in January.

Not quite sure that I fully understand the new tarriff though. Obviously the rates are clear enough :-

Unit rate (23:30 - 05:30):
10.00p/ kWh
Unit rate (05:30 - 23:30):
43.37p/ kWh
Standing Charge:
42.86p/ day

... and of course cheap rate is now 6 hours rather than 4.

But what is the "Intelligent Tariff now open to Audi eTrons" bit? How does the system know you are charging an E-tron? And why does it care?
 

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I'm also still with Octopus Go at 5p which will end in January.

Not quite sure that I fully understand the new tarriff though. Obviously the rates are clear enough :-
... and of course cheap rate is now 6 hours rather than 4.

But what is the "Intelligent Tariff now open to Audi eTrons" bit? How does the system know you are charging an E-tron? And why does it care?
The short answer is, Octopus create a bridge between them and your myAudi account.

The Intelligent bit is the Audi charge timers are controlled via an Octopus bridge that connects to the myAudi account and sets them up - this can include charging the car outside the off-peak times if, I guess, the wholesale price is lower, but we only get charged the 10p rate regardless. That means you can leave the car plugged in all day if it is at home.

As an example, last night Octopus set-up three different timers through the off-peak time period to charge my Q4. It respects the charge target and you can also set when the car needs to be ready to drive - in my case by 7am. If needed you can 'boost' the charge any time.

For my home, it means we now start other appliances at the beginning of the off-peak rate like the dishwasher.

Hope that helps.
 

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Interesting, so does that mean that if you use the systen in 'non-intelegent' mode (say by plugging in your Tesla) that you simply get the six hours cheap rate in the way that Go gives you 4?
Yep, but I think Tesla is included in the 'Intelligent' tariff ;)

Octopus do take you through a sign-up procedure which does include telling them about your car and charger. When I did this in October, Audi were not included and I had to use the current Go tariff so I think you need the intelligent bit to sign-up.

The other point to note is this is not a fixed term tariff, so it may be subject to price rises (and perhaps falls) over time.
 

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Thanks, I think that makes sense.

If you can get the six hours anyway however I am still not entirely clear what more you get from it being open to E-tron users (as oposed to anyone else). A non-included car would seem to get exactly the same ie. six hours of low tarriff electricity per night.

I get that they may move some or all of the 6 hours out of the 11:30-05:30 window but quite how that benefits the user is not completely clear to me. At the end of the day you still pay 10p for what you use.

Maybe I am still missing something.
 

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If you can get the six hours anyway however I am still not entirely clear what more you get from it being open to E-tron users (as oposed to anyone else). A non-included car would seem to get exactly the same ie. six hours of low tarriff electricity per night.

I get that they may move some or all of the 6 hours out of the 11:30-05:30 window but quite how that benefits the user is not completely clear to me. At the end of the day you still pay 10p for what you use.

Maybe I am still missing something.
You can't sign-up without a compatible car - so no car, no six hours for anything.

Until last week, the tariff was limited to Land Rover/Jaguar, Tesla, Ford, Kia and some VW models or an Ohme charger.
 

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I know the rates vary area to area, but my day rate and standing charge are the same for both the Go and Intelligent tariffs - our Go tariff ended in October so had to change to something.
 

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The thought of something intelligent successfully trying to interface with the myAudi app has blown my mind 🤯🤣
Haha :ROFLMAO:

Although there is a serious point here.

If the system moves the charging period around (with the minimum of 6 hours each day) then presumably it needs to know what charge you want and your proposed departure time as per the E-tron timer.

There must be lots of users who don't really care about the final target state of charge and just want to take what charge they can when it is cheap.

The E-tron software does it's best to get to the desired charge level using the cheap rate but if there is insufficient time in the window then it charges outside that window to make sure that you get what you wanted.

I suppose at the end of the day, in return for cheaper (and longer) charging you have to give up some control of the process. Just be careful it doesn't end up moving into the higher rate too often.
 

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@Chasing Cars the primary charge time is always going to be 23:30 to 05:30 and the aim will be to meet the charge target - mine is 80% set within the car and the Octopus App. So far, I've not had a timer outside of the night rate.

Outside of the night rate, the day tariff is charged - only if Octopus initiate a charge will the 10p rate apply during the day. You too can 'boost' the charge in the day at the day rate.

@12 Month Club Octopus seem to have a better relationship with myAudi app than I do ;)
 

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Quite a few times, my charge time has been outside of the 11.30pm-5.30am standard 6 hour window. For example, last night it was 11.00pm-6.30am because my e-tron needed a lot charge. When this happens, you get the whole window on the cheap rate (7.5p for me) for the whole house, not just the car. This is the advantage of linking Intelligent Octopus to your Audi account, otherwise it's just the standard 6 hour windows every time.

I also charge my girlfriend's BMW i3 during the standard 6 hour window (obviously when mine isn't charging) and it still gets the cheap rate, but is strictly limited to 11.30pm-5.30pm.
 
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